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		<title>By: dr.hypercube</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d seen biotope pictures of &lt;em&gt;ciliata&lt;/em&gt; growing on mud flats in mangrove swamps (of course, now I can&#039;t find the image), so I thought I&#039;d be OK. It may be that there are specific morphs/cultivars that are adapted to brackish, but I intend to keep trying - mangroves and a carpet of crypts _would_ be a good thing.

Good eye! That was a &lt;em&gt;Nymphoides cristata&lt;/em&gt; - it didn&#039;t do well with the tranistion to brackish, but I have more growing in my whiskey barrel lotus garden, so I may try again - more gradually.

Don&#039;t worry about hurrying on the shipping - take care of yourself - I had my first back strain session a year ago and it was no fun at all.

The other 2 plants I&#039;m trying out in the tank are the bombproof old favorites - Java Moss and Java Fern. The moss is already taking off; the fern is taking it&#039;s time. Look forward to further brackish plant discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d seen biotope pictures of <em>ciliata</em> growing on mud flats in mangrove swamps (of course, now I can&#8217;t find the image), so I thought I&#8217;d be OK. It may be that there are specific morphs/cultivars that are adapted to brackish, but I intend to keep trying &#8211; mangroves and a carpet of crypts _would_ be a good thing.</p>
<p>Good eye! That was a <em>Nymphoides cristata</em> &#8211; it didn&#8217;t do well with the tranistion to brackish, but I have more growing in my whiskey barrel lotus garden, so I may try again &#8211; more gradually.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry about hurrying on the shipping &#8211; take care of yourself &#8211; I had my first back strain session a year ago and it was no fun at all.</p>
<p>The other 2 plants I&#8217;m trying out in the tank are the bombproof old favorites &#8211; Java Moss and Java Fern. The moss is already taking off; the fern is taking it&#8217;s time. Look forward to further brackish plant discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: hydrophyte</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 05:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and oh yes, that&#039;s called &quot;product placement&quot;. I understand that you can also use those clear plastic baskets in your sink to dry flatware, but growing plants in them is much more fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and oh yes, that&#8217;s called &#8220;product placement&#8221;. I understand that you can also use those clear plastic baskets in your sink to dry flatware, but growing plants in them is much more fun.</p>
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		<title>By: hydrophyte</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 04:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got your emails with information and flickr invite. Thanks a bunch! At present, I am bed-ridden with a severe back strain. I don&#039;t know when it will improve to the point where I can descend the stairs to the fishroom, but I&#039;ll try to put together your plants as soon as I can and send you a notice before I ship.

I&#039;d count that as a success that you have had that &lt;em&gt;ciliata&lt;/em&gt; going for a year in brackish water. I have certainly run into references to growing them in brackish setups, but I have ever seen any pictures or real descriptions and wonder if these might just be based on biotope records.

I would like to discuss plant selection for brackish systems. Like I said, I have a couple of other possibilities, but I don&#039;t know if I can really take any divisions from these right now. Is that some kind of &lt;em&gt;Nymphoides&lt;/em&gt; water snowflake you have in that picture from 7/17/08? Is that still going?

Ghanzafar&#039;s blog is an amazing place. I imagine that he has bloomed more crypts than any other American. If you look you will see that his culture setup is quite low-tech and easy-care. I would like to know more details about his photo studio. I have to figure out how to get better specimen shots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got your emails with information and flickr invite. Thanks a bunch! At present, I am bed-ridden with a severe back strain. I don&#8217;t know when it will improve to the point where I can descend the stairs to the fishroom, but I&#8217;ll try to put together your plants as soon as I can and send you a notice before I ship.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d count that as a success that you have had that <em>ciliata</em> going for a year in brackish water. I have certainly run into references to growing them in brackish setups, but I have ever seen any pictures or real descriptions and wonder if these might just be based on biotope records.</p>
<p>I would like to discuss plant selection for brackish systems. Like I said, I have a couple of other possibilities, but I don&#8217;t know if I can really take any divisions from these right now. Is that some kind of <em>Nymphoides</em> water snowflake you have in that picture from 7/17/08? Is that still going?</p>
<p>Ghanzafar&#8217;s blog is an amazing place. I imagine that he has bloomed more crypts than any other American. If you look you will see that his culture setup is quite low-tech and easy-care. I would like to know more details about his photo studio. I have to figure out how to get better specimen shots.</p>
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		<title>By: dr.hypercube</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS - I recognize the basket your &lt;em&gt;ciliata&lt;/em&gt; is in *grin*.

Between you and Kryptokoryne (found via your blogroll) I&#039;m green w/ envy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS &#8211; I recognize the basket your <em>ciliata</em> is in *grin*.</p>
<p>Between you and Kryptokoryne (found via your blogroll) I&#8217;m green w/ envy.</p>
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		<title>By: dr.hypercube</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love another mangrove - I&#039;ll email you my meatspace address later today!

I chose the &lt;em&gt;ciliata&lt;/em&gt; because I&#039;d heard they adapted well to brackish conditions. I started with 4 and am down to one after a year. I&#039;m not sure what I&#039;m doing wrong - my hope is that if the mangroves take off (as they seem to be doing - knock wood) and pull all the nutrients out of the water column, the &lt;em&gt;ciliata&lt;/em&gt; will also respond, since it can pull what it needs from the substrate. We&#039;ll see - I may need to watch eBay again for a few more...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love another mangrove &#8211; I&#8217;ll email you my meatspace address later today!</p>
<p>I chose the <em>ciliata</em> because I&#8217;d heard they adapted well to brackish conditions. I started with 4 and am down to one after a year. I&#8217;m not sure what I&#8217;m doing wrong &#8211; my hope is that if the mangroves take off (as they seem to be doing &#8211; knock wood) and pull all the nutrients out of the water column, the <em>ciliata</em> will also respond, since it can pull what it needs from the substrate. We&#8217;ll see &#8211; I may need to watch eBay again for a few more&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: hydrophyte</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey this is awesome. that is a great fish. i have been accumulating plants here and there with the idea of setting up a brackish system, but i haven&#039;t moved on it yet.

would you like to try another mangrove? i have some spare black mangrove (&lt;em&gt;Avicennia germinans&lt;/em&gt;). apparently this one has not been kept in aquariums much. i have a couple of other salt-marsh plants that might work too, though i haven&#039;t tried to grow these in brackish water.

i would really be interested in knowing more about your &lt;em&gt;Cryptocoryne ciliata&lt;/em&gt;. this is a great plant--one of my favorites. i have several going in my high-humidity riparium. this link goes to a shot of one with an open spathe &lt;a href=&quot;http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3311/3525922499_b9e9030b2a_o.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;C. ciliata&lt;/em&gt; spathe&lt;/a&gt;. so you have had that one going for a while? i have heard about these growing in brackish conditions. it really would be fantastic to get a tank going with healthy mangroves and thick &lt;em&gt;ciliata&lt;/em&gt; foliage. .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey this is awesome. that is a great fish. i have been accumulating plants here and there with the idea of setting up a brackish system, but i haven&#8217;t moved on it yet.</p>
<p>would you like to try another mangrove? i have some spare black mangrove (<em>Avicennia germinans</em>). apparently this one has not been kept in aquariums much. i have a couple of other salt-marsh plants that might work too, though i haven&#8217;t tried to grow these in brackish water.</p>
<p>i would really be interested in knowing more about your <em>Cryptocoryne ciliata</em>. this is a great plant&#8211;one of my favorites. i have several going in my high-humidity riparium. this link goes to a shot of one with an open spathe <a href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3311/3525922499_b9e9030b2a_o.jpg" rel="nofollow"><em>C. ciliata</em> spathe</a>. so you have had that one going for a while? i have heard about these growing in brackish conditions. it really would be fantastic to get a tank going with healthy mangroves and thick <em>ciliata</em> foliage. .</p>
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